I've been trading with prop firms since 2021 and this has been the worst experience of all of them.
I had two funded accounts with over 15k combined profit that I planned to withdraw as payouts over time.
They moved me to a pro account (not even live like other prop firms did to me over the years) and removed all my existing profits that I had.
What pisses me off the most is that I check regularly discord and X and they said nothing about these PRO accounts, it is basically hidden and retroactive.
I told them I wanted to keep in SIM not go to pro, but this was an option, this was their reply:
"Once a Professional Stage invitation is issued, your evaluation phase is considered completed. The next step in the program is to operate under the Professional Stage, which involves trading under real capital conditions.
At that point, your Simulated Funded Accounts enter a transition process and, once that process is completed, those SIM accounts are closed and are no longer available for trading. You cannot continue trading on the SIM accounts after the invitation is issued.
Any payout request that was already submitted and approved before the transition will continue normally. However, simulated profits that were not locked in through an approved payout do not carry over. Simulated profits are not paid out, are not transferred, and are not converted into drawdown or balance in the Professional account.
The Professional account is a new structure with its own starting balance, drawdown, and risk parameters. Your simulated profit does not become drawdown credit or tradable capital in Pro.
Remaining in SIM is not an option once the Professional Stage invitation is issued. The Professional Stage is the required path forward to continue trading within the program.
Best regards,
Risk Management Team
Funded Futures Family"
Since I had no other option, I accepted, I could only trade 1 contract which is very low me, and I had DLL which I did not had in my SIM funded account.
And this is not the worst part.
The worst part is that I went into a 50% of the available drawdown (still had $4,493 of drawdown available) and they moved me to another program called PCA, which nobody knows, which it is not available in their main website, which is nowhere to be found on discord and X.
this is their email:
"Hi,
As part of our ongoing risk oversight within the FFF Live Program, we are writing to inform you that your Pro/Live account has reached a predefined risk threshold and has been temporarily placed on hold.
To continue forward, you will now transition into a Performance Check Account (PCA).
The PCA is a structured performance review designed to confirm consistency and risk control before resuming Live trading. This is a standard step within the Pro/Live Program and is not a penalty.
Performance Check Account Requirements
To successfully complete the PCA, you must meet all of the following criteria:
Achieve $10,000 in realized profit
Maintain a minimum Profit Factor of 1.5
Profit Factor is calculated as:
Profit Factor = Gross Profits ÷ Gross Losses
Complete 10 winning trading days, each with at least $200 in realized profit
Do not hit the Maximum Loss Limit (MLL) of $2,000
Remain fully compliant with all risk and drawdown rules during the PCA
What Happens Next
If the PCA is successfully completed:
Your Live account will be reactivated, and your balance will be restored to the level it held at the time the PCA was initiated. You will then continue in the Live Program.
If the PCA is not completed:
The Live account will be closed. You may continue trading with FFF at any time by entering a new evaluation.
Please note that each Live account is eligible for one Performance Check Account.
If you have any questions regarding the PCA process, you may reply directly to this email.
Best regards,
Risk Management Team
Funded Futures Family"
Basically they robbed me all my SIM funded profits + sent me to a shitty PRO account which is not even live capital + once in a small drawdown they sent me to a worse account called PCA.
Everybody should know this is a scam firm, and once you have success they will remove all your sim profits and send you to another SIM account which if you experience a dradown they will send you to an even worse account.
I've been trading with prop firms since 2021 and this has been the worst experience of all of them.
I had two funded accounts with over 15k combined profit that I planned to withdraw as payouts over time.
They moved me to a pro account (not even live like other prop firms did to me over the years) and removed all my existing profits that I had.
What pisses me off the most is that I check regularly discord and X and they said nothing about these PRO accounts, it is basically hidden and retroactive.
I told them I wanted to keep in SIM not go to pro, but this was an option, this was their reply:
"Once a Professional Stage invitation is issued, your evaluation phase is considered completed. The next step in the program is to operate under the Professional Stage, which involves trading under real capital conditions.
At that point, your Simulated Funded Accounts enter a transition process and, once that process is completed, those SIM accounts are closed and are no longer available for trading. You cannot continue trading on the SIM accounts after the invitation is issued.
Any payout request that was already submitted and approved before the transition will continue normally. However, simulated profits that were not locked in through an approved payout do not carry over. Simulated profits are not paid out, are not transferred, and are not converted into drawdown or balance in the Professional account.
The Professional account is a new structure with its own starting balance, drawdown, and risk parameters. Your simulated profit does not become drawdown credit or tradable capital in Pro.
Remaining in SIM is not an option once the Professional Stage invitation is issued. The Professional Stage is the required path forward to continue trading within the program.
Best regards,
Risk Management Team
Funded Futures Family"
Since I had no other option, I accepted, I could only trade 1 contract which is very low me, and I had DLL which I did not had in my SIM funded account.
And this is not the worst part.
The worst part is that I went into a 50% of the available drawdown (still had $4,493 of drawdown available) and they moved me to another program called PCA, which nobody knows, which it is not available in their main website, which is nowhere to be found on discord and X.
this is their email:
"Hi,
As part of our ongoing risk oversight within the FFF Live Program, we are writing to inform you that your Pro/Live account has reached a predefined risk threshold and has been temporarily placed on hold.
To continue forward, you will now transition into a Performance Check Account (PCA).
The PCA is a structured performance review designed to confirm consistency and risk control before resuming Live trading. This is a standard step within the Pro/Live Program and is not a penalty.
Performance Check Account Requirements
To successfully complete the PCA, you must meet all of the following criteria:
Achieve $10,000 in realized profit
Maintain a minimum Profit Factor of 1.5
Profit Factor is calculated as:
Profit Factor = Gross Profits ÷ Gross Losses
Complete 10 winning trading days, each with at least $200 in realized profit
Do not hit the Maximum Loss Limit (MLL) of $2,000
Remain fully compliant with all risk and drawdown rules during the PCA
What Happens Next
If the PCA is successfully completed:
Your Live account will be reactivated, and your balance will be restored to the level it held at the time the PCA was initiated. You will then continue in the Live Program.
If the PCA is not completed:
The Live account will be closed. You may continue trading with FFF at any time by entering a new evaluation.
Please note that each Live account is eligible for one Performance Check Account.
If you have any questions regarding the PCA process, you may reply directly to this email.
Best regards,
Risk Management Team
Funded Futures Family"
Basically they robbed me all my SIM funded profits + sent me to a shitty PRO account which is not even live capital + once in a small drawdown they sent me to a worse account called PCA.
Everybody should know this is a scam firm, and once you have success they will remove all your sim profits and send you to another SIM account which if you experience a dradown they will send you to an even worse account.